My message to every Freebie Trader due to recent Developments

February 27, 2009

Hello one and all. I haven't made a post all week, which is pretty bad for being “The Freebie Guy”, especially considering all that has been going on in the industry. First let me give my reasons for not posting:

1. I suffered a loss of a good friend last week and that shook me up a little bit. Btw, thank you so much to all of you who sent me messages of support. YOU GUYS ROCK! I'm doing much better.
2. Every so often, people need a break. I had one of those weeks last week where I just felt like taking a break. I'm sure you know how that is.
3. Although I was taking a break, I can't help but keep myself busy. I've been working on a bunch of behind the scenes stuff. And NO, I won't tell you what it is. Not yet at least (but I will soon).

Ok, so now that that is out of the way, let me update you on where I am now. I'm Excited and ready to face the world. I'm actually in Florida until Monday, but Monday will start an exciting month of great promotions and developments.

The Recent Freebie Controversy

There has been a lot of talk about the developments that have been occurring in The Freebie Industry, specifically dealing with The Free Lunch Room banning site owners for various reasons. Some of you have received emails from site owners because you are a part of their mailing lists about Leo Shimizu, the Administrator of The Free Lunch Room. Here's a summary of what those emails contained:

  • Being a Proven Legit Site at The Free Lunch Room has nothing to do with the quality of the site, but the willingness of the site to fork over between $5,000 and $10,000 to the Admin of FLR.
  • Sites are being banned if they don't use one of 2 affiliate networks that are approved by FLR. To be an approved network, you need to pay Admin $50,000 and 5% of your revenue.
  • Project Payday is making a switch to promoting the Anything4Free Forums, and FLR will be phased out.
  • Move to A4F and Abandon FLR.

The gist of what they are saying is that the owner of FLR is unethical and only after his own personal gain.

On the other hand, there was the Force Read at FLR about The FLR Independence Day, where Admin says the following things:

  • Site owners don't have to pay to be Proven Legit. However, if there's a choice between 2 legit sites and one supports the forum more financially, that site will be chosen.
  • Site owners have had enough time to evaluate and discuss the choices, and FLR had to make some tough decisions that they believe are for the bettering of the industry.
  • PPD is making a switch because of differences in business models, but FLR has other things in place to get traffic and make the forum even better.

In the thread, Leo also detailed some plans for the future, which include setting up an FLR Congress, which would be composed of FLR members who will be making the decisions regarding the forums.

Now, the average Freebie Trader reads all of this and is very confused. I mean, who do you believe? Obviously somebody has to be lying.

I've been involved in this industry since January of 2008 and it has been great. I've also been able to nurture relationships with people on both sides of the equation. I hear just about everything from just about everywhere it seems – much of which I choose not to publish on my blog, because I don't believe that a lot of it would be to your benefit. I try to provide you with the information that I believe will help you.

The truth is that this is a great industry with so much potential. However, the unfortunate reality is that MOST of the people who get into the industry don't take advantage of everything there is to offer. Also, many people get caught up in negativity. There is a lot of negativity going on right now and I spent some time reading through some of the responses and I see a lot of people freaking out, so I have a message for you.

The Message From The Freebie Guy

Message #1: Don't get too caught up in the negativity and don't get too emotionally involved.

I know that times are tough, and some of you are probably doing this to feed your families. However, emotional involvement can cause you to make rash decisions that can end up hurting you in the long run. Do your own research. Figure out the truth for YOURSELF, and make educated decisions based on the knowledge you have acquired. I know what I believe, and I will not be sharing much on this topic when it comes to this controversy, because I don't want to contribute to the mess.

Message #2: Take success into your own hands.

Guys, come on! The time for sitting back, relaxing and waiting for FLR, A4F or PPD to send you referrals is over. Get your own referrals. I mean, really, do you really want your success to be tied up in 1 source? Yes, use those sources, they can be great, and yes, you should use them. Use them and enjoy the referrals they send you. They are great. I love them and I send referrals there because I know it can be easy for them to get referrals there. However, there are other ways to get referrals such as social networking, blogging, article marketing and the list goes on. People neglect these things because they take a while to get going. However, once you have gotten them going, you are good to go.

Message #3: Diversify your portfolio.

Putting all your eggs in one basket is never a good thing. When the basket falls, all of the eggs can break at once. I do not say this because of a lack of confidence in the Freebie Industry. I say it because of a lack of confidence in EVERY industry. Nothing is forever. The reason the rich get richer is because the have a well-diversified portfolio (for the most part) that keeps bringing them more income in multiple ways.

I will be starting different series of different ways to make money, ways to get traffic and a bunch of other great things. Like I said, March will be a great month and I look forward to sharing some of the things I've been learning with you. Have a great weekend!

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24 Comments

  • Chris Deals says:

    I love the picture you used fort his post. I agree with you about not getting caught up in this controversy.

    The average trader needs to think about their business model, and figure out what works best for them.

    This is a great example about not putting all your eggs in one basket. They are many ways to get referrals, and this should act as a motivator for all of us to branch out from the forums. T

    I can’t wait to see how this all plays out.

    Chris Dealss last blog post..What Is So Special About Freebie Trading?

    • Chris, you made a very important statement there. “The average trader needs to think about their business model”. That is sooo true. In fact, EVERY trader needs to think about their business model. It is a huge part of what will determine your success!

  • Chris Deals says:

    I love the picture you used fort his post. I agree with you about not getting caught up in this controversy.

    The average trader needs to think about their business model, and figure out what works best for them.

    This is a great example about not putting all your eggs in one basket. They are many ways to get referrals, and this should act as a motivator for all of us to branch out from the forums. T

    I can’t wait to see how this all plays out.

    Chris Dealss last blog post..What Is So Special About Freebie Trading?

    • Leslie says:

      Chris, you made a very important statement there. “The average trader needs to think about their business model”. That is sooo true. In fact, EVERY trader needs to think about their business model. It is a huge part of what will determine your success!

  • Theresa says:

    Excellent post, Leslie. I know that my circle of trader friends is constantly brainstorming on new ideas to get refs so that we are not stricly dependent on the forums, and we are having a ball AND getting refs! People do tend to get emotional, myself included, so appreciate your comments on that as well.

  • Jason says:

    Regarding Admin’s post:

    “if there’s a choice between 2 legit sites and one supports the forum more financially”

    The only deciding factor is money. Nothing else. If it was about the legitimacy of a site and the owner, Leo’s own sites would have to be taken out of proven legit (lol).

    As far as the other claims: believe them when you see them. An FLR congress with the ability to override Leo’s decisions. Yeah right. Getting double the traffic that PPD provided, yeah right.

    FLR’s rules bettering the industry? Yeah right. Leo has no credibility. If there was ever a good ban on any site ever, it was the banning of Leo from Anything4Free and FreeiPodGuide.

    I just hope more people will think for themselves instead of acting like sheep. (Not the owner of this blog, I mean many of the FLR members).

    • Hi Jason, I’m not trying to defend anyone, but in every business, there will be a lot of situations where the only deciding factor is money. Also, I read the post he made and he did say that he will have the power to veto the congress.

      I do agree though that people need to think for themselves instead of acting like sheep. Just because someone says something, it doesn’t mean it’s true. Obviously somebody’s lying, lol.

  • Theresa says:

    Excellent post, Leslie. I know that my circle of trader friends is constantly brainstorming on new ideas to get refs so that we are not stricly dependent on the forums, and we are having a ball AND getting refs! People do tend to get emotional, myself included, so appreciate your comments on that as well.

  • Jason says:

    Regarding Admin’s post:

    “if there’s a choice between 2 legit sites and one supports the forum more financially”

    The only deciding factor is money. Nothing else. If it was about the legitimacy of a site and the owner, Leo’s own sites would have to be taken out of proven legit (lol).

    As far as the other claims: believe them when you see them. An FLR congress with the ability to override Leo’s decisions. Yeah right. Getting double the traffic that PPD provided, yeah right.

    FLR’s rules bettering the industry? Yeah right. Leo has no credibility. If there was ever a good ban on any site ever, it was the banning of Leo from Anything4Free and FreeiPodGuide.

    I just hope more people will think for themselves instead of acting like sheep. (Not the owner of this blog, I mean many of the FLR members).

    • Leslie says:

      Hi Jason, I’m not trying to defend anyone, but in every business, there will be a lot of situations where the only deciding factor is money. Also, I read the post he made and he did say that he will have the power to veto the congress.

      I do agree though that people need to think for themselves instead of acting like sheep. Just because someone says something, it doesn’t mean it’s true. Obviously somebody’s lying, lol.

  • Stephane says:

    Well… this certainlly great advices Leslie.

    Since there is a lot of various ways to get referals it is for sure not a good idea to get stuck between one or the other.

    Thanks for sharing your toughts about these recent events, that might lead to something even greater in the freebie industry… who knows for sure? Aren’t we humans creatures of habits? Aren’t we usually scarded of changes?

    Let’s keep an open mind (as well of our eyes…) and we’ll see where all this will lead. ;0)

  • Stephane says:

    Well… this certainlly great advices Leslie.

    Since there is a lot of various ways to get referals it is for sure not a good idea to get stuck between one or the other.

    Thanks for sharing your toughts about these recent events, that might lead to something even greater in the freebie industry… who knows for sure? Aren’t we humans creatures of habits? Aren’t we usually scarded of changes?

    Let’s keep an open mind (as well of our eyes…) and we’ll see where all this will lead. ;0)

  • bountyhunter says:

    Thanks for your input.. sounds like we have joined the industry at the same time.. I’m very much aware of Leo Shimizu from the FLR. Even had a lengthy conversation with him. From this conversation it was made very clear to me that his ego far reaches into the stratisphere. Money is his motivation. It would appear that had I “donated” to the FLR I would still be there. He also kept my $75 bucks for a sticky “sign up” that I prepaid and never received. Am I bitter? Certainly not over the 75 bucks! However, I’m bitter enough to lean to the negative side of this information in a way to protect others from falling into the web that he spins. Its a doozy and so is he. Meum Pactum Dictum – My Word Is My Bond. There are not enough good folks these days and unfortuately their word is no longer any good at the FLR. bh

    • I hear ya. I have my reservations also for multiple reasons. However, all I care about is what’s best for the industry. In terms of being bitter, you need to put that behind you. That helps no one.

  • bountyhunter says:

    Thanks for your input.. sounds like we have joined the industry at the same time.. I’m very much aware of Leo Shimizu from the FLR. Even had a lengthy conversation with him. From this conversation it was made very clear to me that his ego far reaches into the stratisphere. Money is his motivation. It would appear that had I “donated” to the FLR I would still be there. He also kept my $75 bucks for a sticky “sign up” that I prepaid and never received. Am I bitter? Certainly not over the 75 bucks! However, I’m bitter enough to lean to the negative side of this information in a way to protect others from falling into the web that he spins. Its a doozy and so is he. Meum Pactum Dictum – My Word Is My Bond. There are not enough good folks these days and unfortuately their word is no longer any good at the FLR. bh

    • Leslie says:

      I hear ya. I have my reservations also for multiple reasons. However, all I care about is what’s best for the industry. In terms of being bitter, you need to put that behind you. That helps no one.

  • SBDowntown says:

    I’d like to add my two cents here, on a positive note. Forgive the length of this post. I also received the e-mails from the banned site owners and read the forced read on FLR. No doubt times in the freebie world are changing, and if you depend on FLR to get most (or all) of your referrals, the breakup of Project Payday and FLR could seriously detract from your business, at least until the changes that are promised on FLR take place,and then it will remain to be seen if those changes help the industry as a whole individual traders, both, or neither.

    This can sound disheartening, but I want to give a few tips here to help you get through these tough times.

    Referrals may not be coming to FLR as abundantly as they once were, so how do you continue to make money with your freebie business?

    Treat every ref like they are the most important person in the world. Answer every message you get on the forum, no matter how small the question is. This is what will seperate you from the masses of other traders competing for those referrals. Make the most of every contact that is made, and disregard no one.

    Design your trade thread in such a way that it is inviting and shows a part of your personality. Use good grammar, and be upbeat. This also applies to private messages sent to prospective referrals. ALWAYS be positive.

    In the end, the truth about freebie trading is that unlike other businesses, it should THRIVE in tough times. People need money. IFWs are giving it away for free. It makes sense that this industry should grow! Determine that you will be part of a growing sector of the freebie world. Don’t get caught up in behind-the-scenes politics, because your money depends almost entirely on getting referrals. Focus on them and treat them with the respect and enthusiasm they deserve, and they will come back and do more trades with you, thus putting more money in your pocket.

    Stay positive and mind your own bottom line and the rewards will be great. The industry will survive changes–you must have a successful mindset and determine that you will survive with it and come out stronger than ever.

  • SBDowntown says:

    I’d like to add my two cents here, on a positive note. Forgive the length of this post. I also received the e-mails from the banned site owners and read the forced read on FLR. No doubt times in the freebie world are changing, and if you depend on FLR to get most (or all) of your referrals, the breakup of Project Payday and FLR could seriously detract from your business, at least until the changes that are promised on FLR take place,and then it will remain to be seen if those changes help the industry as a whole individual traders, both, or neither.

    This can sound disheartening, but I want to give a few tips here to help you get through these tough times.

    Referrals may not be coming to FLR as abundantly as they once were, so how do you continue to make money with your freebie business?

    Treat every ref like they are the most important person in the world. Answer every message you get on the forum, no matter how small the question is. This is what will seperate you from the masses of other traders competing for those referrals. Make the most of every contact that is made, and disregard no one.

    Design your trade thread in such a way that it is inviting and shows a part of your personality. Use good grammar, and be upbeat. This also applies to private messages sent to prospective referrals. ALWAYS be positive.

    In the end, the truth about freebie trading is that unlike other businesses, it should THRIVE in tough times. People need money. IFWs are giving it away for free. It makes sense that this industry should grow! Determine that you will be part of a growing sector of the freebie world. Don’t get caught up in behind-the-scenes politics, because your money depends almost entirely on getting referrals. Focus on them and treat them with the respect and enthusiasm they deserve, and they will come back and do more trades with you, thus putting more money in your pocket.

    Stay positive and mind your own bottom line and the rewards will be great. The industry will survive changes–you must have a successful mindset and determine that you will survive with it and come out stronger than ever.

  • Aaron says:

    Great Post Leslie,

    You managed to keep a positive outlook on what seems to be a negative situation. I haven’t been very active in the freebie industry as of late but I did get the emails from the network owners. It does seem unfortunate that this has to happen to one of the more popular forums but I don’t think that it will hurt the industry any.

    Aarons last blog post..“The Importance of a Dream”

  • Aaron says:

    Great Post Leslie,

    You managed to keep a positive outlook on what seems to be a negative situation. I haven’t been very active in the freebie industry as of late but I did get the emails from the network owners. It does seem unfortunate that this has to happen to one of the more popular forums but I don’t think that it will hurt the industry any.

    Aarons last blog post..“The Importance of a Dream”

  • Januce says:

    All that Leo cares aboutia the money! If he has to care about his members is because they make him money. A4F is a much nicer community, not as big, but not greedy

  • Januce says:

    All that Leo cares aboutia the money! If he has to care about his members is because they make him money. A4F is a much nicer community, not as big, but not greedy

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